"Berang" (berang)
08/21/2019 at 19:09 • Filed to: None
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"Berang" (berang)
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Back when I wrote an article about my 95 for Petrolicious, I commented that the Saab 95 was a hatchback before people knew what a hatchback was, so they called it a wagon.
Some people claim the Renault 4 was the first hatchback, but if it is actually hatchback, then surely, the Saab 95 would have to be a hatchback, and came first.
Others believe the Renault 16 or the Simca 1100 are the real first true hatchbacks. But I think, in the Saab 95's favor is its three door body and small overall size. The 95 is basically “supermini” sized, before that became a thing. It’s true, the 95 has D pillars, but the C pillars are essentially vestigial, and only there so the back windows can hinge open.
The strongest argument against the 95 being a hatchback is probably the rear facing jumpseat in the back, which is almost definitively a station wagon feature. And yet, the top hinged rear door... was almost unique among 1950's cars. Citroen’s Traction Commerciale had one... and that was about it until the 95 came along.
ranwhenparked
> Berang
08/21/2019 at 19:35 |
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There was also the 1949 Kaiser Traveler & Vagabond.
lone_liberal
> Berang
08/21/2019 at 19:52 |
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Like Justice Stewart and pornography I know a station wagon when I see it , and that is a station wagon.
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Berang
> ranwhenparked
08/21/2019 at 19:56 |
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Discounted, because it’s half tailgate.
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Berang
> lone_liberal
08/21/2019 at 19:56 |
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I think you’re confused.
Urambo Tauro
> Berang
08/21/2019 at 20:05 |
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TBH, I never liked the pillar-based attempts at defining hatchbacks from wagons. I t’s much easier to just go by door count, like coupes vs sedans:
2 door + hatch = hatchback
4 door + hatch = wagon
My X-type is too a real Jaguar
> Berang
08/21/2019 at 20:20 |
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By that rationale the first real hatchback was the Renault 4.
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Berang
> My X-type is too a real Jaguar
08/21/2019 at 20:31 |
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The 95 predates the R4 by a year.
punkgoose17
> ranwhenparked
08/21/2019 at 20:41 |
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I vote this as winner.
RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
> Berang
08/21/2019 at 21:34 |
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W
ouldn’t it be a ‘Shooting
Break’ rather than a wagon or a hatch? Isn’t ‘sho
oting break’ most commonly referenced as being a cross between a coupe and a station wagon, i.e. a two-door car with a wagon/hatch rear end?
gmctavish needs more space
> Berang
09/07/2019 at 22:00 |
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I think it’s a shooting brake. It may be more like a hatchback in current context, but it was intended to be a small wagon/shooting brake. It seems more similar in spirit to an Austin A40 Countryman to me. I think if we let it be a hatchback, that means any small shooting brake is also a hatchback.
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Berang
> gmctavish needs more space
09/08/2019 at 19:23 |
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But only if it has a top hinged hatch.